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Arcanine Gulpin
Number of posts : 46 Age : 32 Location : Check the Fridge Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: rate my team Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:32 am | |
| could some one please rate this team for me. i haven't caught them yet so i have no natures etc. for you. 1. Dragonite. Outrage Brick break Iron tail Ice beam 2. Arcanine Fire Blast Solar Beam Extreme Speed Sunny Day 3. Snorlax Curse Rest Rollout Hyper Beam 4. Electivire Thunder Thunder Punch Screech Rain Dance 5. Poliwrath Dynamic Punch Mind Reader Hydro Pump Earthquake 6. Mamoswine Hail Ice Fang Earthquake Takedown constructive critism will be much appreciated (as well as complements ) | |
| | | Luke Gulpin
Number of posts : 70 Age : 33 Location : Pacific Ocean Registration date : 2007-07-22
| Subject: Re: rate my team Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:23 am | |
| Good Team
If it was me I'd teach Dragonite Dragon Dance for some extra speed and fire power but apart from that everyhting seems solid. | |
| | | Arcanine Gulpin
Number of posts : 46 Age : 32 Location : Check the Fridge Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:50 am | |
| i was thinking of changing outrage to another move, prob dragon breath or dragon rage. | |
| | | Luke Gulpin
Number of posts : 70 Age : 33 Location : Pacific Ocean Registration date : 2007-07-22
| Subject: Re: rate my team Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:33 pm | |
| Havn't thought about move sets yet but my list of mon so far are:
Flygon Gyarados Electivire Tyranitar Garchomp Dragonite/Salamance | |
| | | Arcanine Gulpin
Number of posts : 46 Age : 32 Location : Check the Fridge Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:00 pm | |
| i would take some of the dragon types off if possible (a good ice type and 3 of your pokemon are goners). however gyarados and electivire are good pokemon if trained well and have good movesets.
i would prob take the 3 dragons off as gyarados can learn dragon moves leaving me with gyarados, electivire and tyranitar. i would then choose my next 3 mons to cover their backs. | |
| | | Luke Gulpin
Number of posts : 70 Age : 33 Location : Pacific Ocean Registration date : 2007-07-22
| Subject: Re: rate my team Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:19 am | |
| Flygon stays no matter what
It's not really for my main battles its more just a team to use in the game. | |
| | | Arcanine Gulpin
Number of posts : 46 Age : 32 Location : Check the Fridge Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:24 am | |
| oh right, i thought it was a competitive team. its not that bad then if its just in game. | |
| | | Luke Gulpin
Number of posts : 70 Age : 33 Location : Pacific Ocean Registration date : 2007-07-22
| Subject: Re: rate my team Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:27 am | |
| Nha the first 4 are competitive but the last two places probably be something like Snorlax for the HP and maybe Nidoking for the brute force, lol. Just sticking to my favs really. | |
| | | Old Nana Admin
Number of posts : 7 Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:29 am | |
| - Arcanine wrote:
- could some one please rate this team for me. i haven't caught them yet so i have no natures etc. for you.
1. Dragonite. Outrage Brick break Iron tail Ice beam
Dragonite should have ice punch over ice beam as dragonite has better physical attack then special, and iron tail is steel AND inaccurate. D-Dance is a better option.
2. Arcanine Fire Blast Solar Beam Extreme Speed Sunny Day
Give him fire fang over fire blast, as arcanine is better for physical than special. Also sunny beaming is not that good to set up on an arcanine really. IMO thunder fang and crunch are much better options.
3. Snorlax Curse Rest Rollout Hyper Beam
No way hyper beam, it's special and it's a 2 turn move. Go for return or body slam. The rest is fine.
4. Electivire Thunder Thunder Punch Screech Rain Dance
Same with this, it's built for physical attack, and has no durability at all. Thunder dancing is not for electivire, a better moveset would be with ice punch and cross chop/brick break/earthquake. Screech is a strange choice.
5. Poliwrath Dynamic Punch Mind Reader Hydro Pump Earthquake
Again, physical attacker with special moves. Mind reader+hydro pump will take 2 turns, and poliwrath has a lot of weakness to be exploited in that time. Ice punch is a better option.
6. Mamoswine Hail Ice Fang Earthquake Takedown
This is okay, but not too keen on hail, as it hurts every other member of your own team.
constructive critism will be much appreciated (as well as complements ) | |
| | | rangersgreg Magnemite
Number of posts : 26 Age : 29 Location : Well TBH If You Think About It I'm On A Computer Registration date : 2007-07-22
| Subject: Re: rate my team Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:33 am | |
| very good but as ssomeone has already said give dragonite dragon dance | |
| | | Luke Gulpin
Number of posts : 70 Age : 33 Location : Pacific Ocean Registration date : 2007-07-22
| Subject: Re: rate my team Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:08 am | |
| Dragon Dance is the best move to give any Dragon.
My Flyogn's Moveset so far is:
Earthquake Dragon Claw Dragon Dance Toxic
Not the best but it works. I'm also replacing Salamance with Rhyperior as it is just amazing and I forgot all about it. | |
| | | Lamby Gulpin
Number of posts : 73 Age : 32 Location : somewhere never to be found Registration date : 2007-07-29
| Subject: Re: rate my team Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:34 pm | |
| You guys mind rating my team prolly sux like but here goes:
Dragonite:
Earthquake Ice beam Hyper Beam Outrage
Gengar:
Psychic Shadow Ball Destiny Bond Dark Pulse
Emploeon:
Blizzard Hydro pump Surf Waterfall
Heatran:
Flamethrower Lava Plume Earth Power Iron Head
Roserade:
Energy Ball Petal Dance SolarBeam Cut
Zapdos:
Thunderwave Aerial Ace Thunder Drill Peck | |
| | | Banana Admin
Number of posts : 70 Age : 33 Location : Close to the Day Care ¬.¬ Registration date : 2007-07-20
| Subject: Re: rate my team Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:08 pm | |
| - Double J wrote:
- You guys mind rating my team prolly sux like but here goes:
Dragonite:
Earthquake Ice beam Hyper Beam Outrage
switch hyper beam with dragon dance
Gengar:
Psychic Shadow Ball Destiny Bond Dark Pulse
I'm not a big fan of destiny bond as it's one of those sacrifice moves but if it can learn it i'd reccomend calm mind or nasty plot to get that sp.atk beefed up
Emploeon:
Blizzard Hydro pump Surf Waterfall
Lose hydro pump, surf can be just as good and i'd replace it with Flash cannon also id change blizzard for ice beam
Heatran:
Flamethrower Lava Plume Earth Power Iron Head
Roserade:
Energy Ball Petal Dance SolarBeam Cut lose solar beam, put in shadow ball
Zapdos:
Thunderwave Aerial Ace Thunder Drill Peck
make a choice between aerial ace and drill peck, then get rid of one for rain dance since you cant really run the risk of missing with thunder, or just get rid of thunder for thunderbolt
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| | | Hiroko Caterpie
Number of posts : 10 Age : 30 Location : In the shadows. Registration date : 2007-07-30
| Subject: Re: rate my team Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:23 pm | |
| ...
Torterra (Grass and Ground)- Leaf Storm Frenzy Plant Razor Leaf Earthquake
Dialga (Steel and Dragon)- Roar of Time Fire Blast Dragon Claw Flash Cannon
Pachirisu (Electric)- Discharge Super Fang Thunder Cut
Machoke (Fighting)- Cross Chop Rock Smash Focus Punch DynamicPunch
Gardevoir (Psychic)- Energy Ball Magical Leaf Psychic Future Sight
Crobat (Flying and Poison)- Fly Air Slash Aerial Ace Mean Look | |
| | | Banana Admin
Number of posts : 70 Age : 33 Location : Close to the Day Care ¬.¬ Registration date : 2007-07-20
| Subject: Re: rate my team Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:58 pm | |
| - Hiroko wrote:
- ...
Torterra (Grass and Ground)- Leaf Storm Frenzy Plant Razor Leaf Earthquake
ok lose frenzy plant, 2 turn attacks just arent good news online, instead replace with stone edge to deal with the flying mon. Also razor leaf is just too weak and since earthquake will very likely be your main move I'd give it swords dance as a booster
Dialga (Steel and Dragon)- Roar of Time Fire Blast Dragon Claw Flash Cannon
Ok lets face it, Dialga has awesome sp.atk so I'd replace dragon claw with dragon pulse. Also lose fire blast and thunder for flamethrower and thunderbolt as those 2 have appaling accuracy tbh.
Pachirisu (Electric)- Discharge Super Fang Thunder Cut
this isnt much of an attacker but it has decent sp.def. all in all i would reccomend switching out for a slightly more powerful electric type
Machoke (Fighting)- Cross Chop Rock Smash Focus Punch DynamicPunch
lose Rock smash, its just too weak and will not make full use of machokes awesome attack Earthquake will fit in well. also focus punch isnt too good and i'd switch that for bulk up. Dynamic punch should really go that accuracy is to much of a risk for competitive play then add poison jab, which could help. then finally get someone to trade to make it evolve.
Gardevoir (Psychic)- Energy Ball Magical Leaf Psychic Future Sight
Ok calm mind would come in handy so id replace future sight with it possibly switch magical leaf with light screen since energy ball is more powerful and with its added effect will allow for major damage if it does lower sp.def
Crobat (Flying and Poison)- Fly Air Slash Aerial Ace Mean Look
switch out air slash for X scissor, which should help dispose of psychics, get rid of fly and replace it with steel wing to help deal with ice also i would reccomend getting rid of mean look and replacing it with roost
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| | | Banana Admin
Number of posts : 70 Age : 33 Location : Close to the Day Care ¬.¬ Registration date : 2007-07-20
| Subject: Re: rate my team Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:11 pm | |
| Ok a few of my back ups are ready so i'd like to get em rated, I'd like advice on items for these as well, Thanks.
Swampert @ ?????????? Brave EV's: 252 attack, 252 sp.def
Avalanche Earthquake Waterfall Brick Break
Gallade @ ???????? Lonely EV's: 252 attack, 252 sp.def
Leaf blade psycho cut Swords dance Close combat
Togekiss @ ????????? Modest EV's: 252 sp.atk, 252 sp.def
Aura sphere Flamethrower Metronome Water pulse
Tyranitar @ ?????? adamnat EV's 252 attack, 128 defence, 128 sp.def
ice fang / avalanche Earthquake Dragon Dance Dragon claw / outrage
can i get some help with this? | |
| | | Manga-Me Caterpie
Number of posts : 3 Registration date : 2007-08-11
| Subject: Re: rate my team Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:49 pm | |
| - KC14 wrote:
- Ok a few of my back ups are ready so i'd like to get em rated, I'd like advice on items for these as well, Thanks.
Swampert @ Life Orb/Leftovers Brave EV's: 252 attack, 252 sp.def
Avalanche Earthquake Waterfall Brick Break
Not an expert on Swamperts, but this looks pretty good, maybe make the Nature/EVs look a little more like this
Adamant (if you're trying to keep speed down for Avalanche, don't worry, it always hits second, anyway ) 200 Attack, 176 Defence, 132 Sp. Defence as Swampert's only weakness is Grass, and the main Grass attack to look out for is Leaf Blade, which is a physical attack.
Gallade @ Muscle Band? Lonely EV's: 252 attack, 252 sp.def
Leaf blade psycho cut Swords dance/Night Slash Close combat
If you're going to be using a Ninjask as a Baton Passer, you may want to consider switching Swords Dance for Night Slash for a Super Effective move against Ghosts - your main weakness here. Also, switch the Nature/EVs to:
Adamant 252 Attack, 252 Speed.
Togekiss @ Leftovers Modest EV's: 252 sp.atk, 252 sp.def
Aura sphere Flamethrower Metronome Water pulse
Oo, crikey no. Togekiss will never serve as a Special sweeper, its pure wall. For the Nature and EV spread change it to something like this:
180 Sp. Defence, 140 Defence, 200 HP
And give it this moveset:
Thunder Wave Roost Air Slash Aura Sphere
Also, make sure it has the ability: Serene Grace, otherwise the ParaFlinchHax strategy wont work.
Tyranitar @ Life Orb/Leftovers adamant EV's 252 attack, 128 defence, 128 sp.def
Ice Fang Earthquake Dragon Dance/Dragon Claw Crunch
I Suggest that moveset, again, as you will be using Ninjask, you may not need Dragon Dance.
I also suggest this EV Spread:
180 Attack, 120 Speed, 120 Sp. Defence, 88 Defence as TTar's attack is already monsterous, and you need the speed to be able to outspeed Garchomp after a DDance or BP from Ninjask
can i get some help with this? Hope this helped! ^_^ | |
| | | Arcanine Gulpin
Number of posts : 46 Age : 32 Location : Check the Fridge Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:30 am | |
| could some one help me with this, i've edited my team and found i have no special sweepers, and my mixed sweeper isn't built for sp attack.
Dragonite - Dragonscale Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP Outrage Dragon Dance Brick Break Iron Tail Physical Sweeper
Arcanine - charcoal Naughty EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP FlareBlitz SunnyDay Solar Beam Extreme Speed Physical Sweeper
Blissey - Leftovers Bold EV's: 252 Defence, 252 Sp. Defence, 6hp Softboiled Toxic Grassknot Psychic Tank
Electivire - Magnet Rash EV's: 128 Attack, 128 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed Thunder Thunder Punch Discharge Rain Dance Mixed Sweeper
Poliwrath - Mystic Water Rash EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP Surf Dynamic Punch Earthquake Body Slam Physical Sweeper
Mamoswine Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP IceFang Avalanche Earthquake Takedown Physical Sweeper
Dragonite, Arcanine and Blissey are NOT coming off my team, although i would be willing to change there move set apart from Dragonites.
I would like to keep Electivire and Mamoswine, but i would get rid of them if i had to. Poliwrath can come off no problem.
so can some help me and recommend new movesets, pokemon and EV's, please. | |
| | | Old Nana Admin
Number of posts : 7 Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:17 pm | |
| - Arcanine wrote:
- could some one help me with this, i've edited my team and found i have no special sweepers, and my mixed sweeper isn't built for sp attack.
Dragonite - Dragonscale Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP Outrage Dragon Dance Brick Break Iron Tail Physical Sweeper
Give him a lum berry. Iron tail is a nono. A punch is a better option. Also, I'd suggest EQ over brick break, but it's whether you need to break light screens.
Arcanine - charcoal NUUUU MUSCLE BAND. Never use single-type items Naughty you want Jolly EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP FlareBlitz SunnyDay Solar Beam Extreme Speed Physical Sweeper
Did you listen? ARCANINE. DOES. NOT. SUNNYBEAM!!! physical sweeper with sunny beam. Fire's cant take hits. You dont want a 2 turn non STAB move on an arcanine ¬_¬ Go for thunderfang and crunch >_>
Blissey - Leftovers Bold EV's: 252 Defence, 252 Sp. Defence, 6hp Softboiled Toxic Grassknot Psychic Tank
Thats not a tank, thats a tank with sweeper moves and phailing EVs >_> You want to go for: 252 defence, 148 HP, the rest in sp. atk or speed. For the moves, go for seismic toss somewhere.
Electivire - Magnet ARGH, No, you want a life orb/expert belt Rash EV's: 128 Attack, 128 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed Thunder Thunder Punch Discharge Rain Dance Mixed Sweeper
You wont want 'Vire as a mixed sweeper, it doesnt work. Again, conflicting weather, and a weed using a 2 turn set up which is pwnt to hell by a ground, it can't do squat with 3 freaking thunder moves!!!!! ¬_¬ read my last post
Poliwrath - Mystic Water Rash PHYSICAL sweeper, with a +SPATK nature!?!?!?! EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP Surf Dynamic Punch Earthquake Body Slam Physical Sweeper
A physical sweeper.......with SURF???!!?? Go for waterfall, and dynamic punch should be replaced IMO.
Mamoswine Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP IceFang Avalanche Earthquake Takedown Physical Sweeper
2 ice moves.....and neither is ice shard. Use ice shard over avalanche. Take down is stupid, recoil and less power than return, and never super effective. IMO replace it with something else, but if you want normal go for return.
Dragonite, Arcanine and Blissey are NOT coming off my team, although i would be willing to change there move set apart from Dragonites.
I would like to keep Electivire and Mamoswine, but i would get rid of them if i had to. Poliwrath can come off no problem.
so can some help me and recommend new movesets, pokemon and EV's, please. | |
| | | Arcanine Gulpin
Number of posts : 46 Age : 32 Location : Check the Fridge Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:03 am | |
| - Banana wrote:
- Arcanine wrote:
- could some one help me with this, i've edited my team and found i have no special sweepers, and my mixed sweeper isn't built for sp attack.
Dragonite - Dragonscale Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP Outrage Dragon Dance Brick Break Iron Tail Physical Sweeper
Give him a lum berry. Iron tail is a nono. A punch is a better option. Also, I'd suggest EQ over brick break, but it's whether you need to break light screens.
Arcanine - charcoal NUUUU MUSCLE BAND. Never use single-type items Naughty you want Jolly EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP FlareBlitz SunnyDay Solar Beam Extreme Speed Physical Sweeper
Did you listen? ARCANINE. DOES. NOT. SUNNYBEAM!!! physical sweeper with sunny beam. Fire's cant take hits. You dont want a 2 turn non STAB move on an arcanine ¬_¬ Go for thunderfang and crunch >_>
Blissey - Leftovers Bold EV's: 252 Defence, 252 Sp. Defence, 6hp Softboiled Toxic Grassknot Psychic Tank
Thats not a tank, thats a tank with sweeper moves and phailing EVs >_> You want to go for: 252 defence, 148 HP, the rest in sp. atk or speed. For the moves, go for seismic toss somewhere.
Electivire - Magnet ARGH, No, you want a life orb/expert belt Rash EV's: 128 Attack, 128 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed Thunder Thunder Punch Discharge Rain Dance Mixed Sweeper
You wont want 'Vire as a mixed sweeper, it doesnt work. Again, conflicting weather, and a weed using a 2 turn set up which is pwnt to hell by a ground, it can't do squat with 3 freaking thunder moves!!!!! ¬_¬ read my last post
Poliwrath - Mystic Water Rash PHYSICAL sweeper, with a +SPATK nature!?!?!?! EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP Surf Dynamic Punch Earthquake Body Slam Physical Sweeper
A physical sweeper.......with SURF???!!?? Go for waterfall, and dynamic punch should be replaced IMO.
Mamoswine Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP IceFang Avalanche Earthquake Takedown Physical Sweeper
2 ice moves.....and neither is ice shard. Use ice shard over avalanche. Take down is stupid, recoil and less power than return, and never super effective. IMO replace it with something else, but if you want normal go for return.
Dragonite, Arcanine and Blissey are NOT coming off my team, although i would be willing to change there move set apart from Dragonites.
I would like to keep Electivire and Mamoswine, but i would get rid of them if i had to. Poliwrath can come off no problem.
so can some help me and recommend new movesets, pokemon and EV's, please. you really didn't help me that much, i asked to recommend other pokemon for my team as, if you read my post, i have no special sweepers. EDIT: No need anymore, i have a new team, i'll post later when i have movestes etc. | |
| | | Old Nana Admin
Number of posts : 7 Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:45 am | |
| - Arcanine wrote:
so can some help me and recommend new movesets, pokemon and EV's, please. I did 2/3 of what you asked actually arcanine. | |
| | | Banana Admin
Number of posts : 70 Age : 33 Location : Close to the Day Care ¬.¬ Registration date : 2007-07-20
| Subject: Re: rate my team Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:06 pm | |
| like i found out, choose your team members yourself, otherwise it wont be your team, it'll be bananas. Work with pokemon you know, it helps a lot. | |
| | | Old Nana Admin
Number of posts : 7 Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:13 pm | |
| also, play with your favourites, not what you think works. The amount of noobs going
"el oh el i gotz scarfed garchomp and salamence and gyarados, zomg you killed mah pogeymanz with yours"
because i have electric and ice moves and the ability to kill dragons and gyaradoses is unbelievable. People die to my BLs and my UUs all the time, its predictability, each garchomp will have outrage, EQ and probably fire fang. Each mence will have EQ and D-Claw, and each gyarados will have waterfall and EQ.
be original. and consider my advice cos your movesets are kinda bad xD | |
| | | Arcanine Gulpin
Number of posts : 46 Age : 32 Location : Check the Fridge Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:14 pm | |
| - Banana wrote:
- also, play with your favourites, not what you think works. The amount of noobs going
"el oh el i gotz scarfed garchomp and salamence and gyarados, zomg you killed mah pogeymanz with yours"
because i have electric and ice moves and the ability to kill dragons and gyaradoses is unbelievable. People die to my BLs and my UUs all the time, its predictability, each garchomp will have outrage, EQ and probably fire fang. Each mence will have EQ and D-Claw, and each gyarados will have waterfall and EQ.
be original. and consider my advice cos your movesets are kinda bad xD i've gotten rid of electivire, poliwrath and mamoswine, and replaced them with Primeape, Starmie and Skarmary, i've listened to you and given Dragonite EQ and thunderpunch over iron tail and brick break, and gave him DD ovre ice beam, Changed Blissey's move set to a special wall moveset, and i really went against what you said and completely changed arcanine into a Special Sweeper (I know he has beter attack than Special attack, but it is so little it doesn't make much difference, and i read a team building guide and it said it could be used as both so. I was gonna take your advice but i needed a special sweeper and that was the easiest option (and i got my favourite move in the game on my favourite pokemon in the game, score)). | |
| | | Old Nana Admin
Number of posts : 7 Registration date : 2007-07-21
| Subject: Re: rate my team Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:42 pm | |
| Thats fine arcy, it'll be a surprise to people anyway, as everyone'll expect a physical arcanine. Just as long as you didn't make it a sunnybeamer >_> but good, personalisation [within the realms of what works and what doesn't] is the key to success | |
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