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PostSubject: rate my team   Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:32 am

could some one please rate this team for me. i haven't caught them yet so i have no natures etc. for you.

1. Dragonite.
Outrage
Brick break
Iron tail
Ice beam

2. Arcanine
Fire Blast
Solar Beam
Extreme Speed
Sunny Day

3. Snorlax
Curse
Rest
Rollout
Hyper Beam

4. Electivire
Thunder
Thunder Punch
Screech
Rain Dance

5. Poliwrath
Dynamic Punch
Mind Reader
Hydro Pump
Earthquake

6. Mamoswine
Hail
Ice Fang
Earthquake
Takedown


constructive critism will be much appreciated (as well as complements Very Happy )
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:23 am

Good Team

If it was me I'd teach Dragonite Dragon Dance for some extra speed and fire power but apart from that everyhting seems solid.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:50 am

i was thinking of changing outrage to another move, prob dragon breath or dragon rage.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:33 pm

Havn't thought about move sets yet but my list of mon so far are:

Flygon
Gyarados
Electivire
Tyranitar
Garchomp
Dragonite/Salamance
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:00 pm

i would take some of the dragon types off if possible (a good ice type and 3 of your pokemon are goners). however gyarados and electivire are good pokemon if trained well and have good movesets.


i would prob take the 3 dragons off as gyarados can learn dragon moves leaving me with gyarados, electivire and tyranitar. i would then choose my next 3 mons to cover their backs.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:19 am

Flygon stays no matter what

It's not really for my main battles its more just a team to use in the game.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:24 am

oh right, i thought it was a competitive team. its not that bad then if its just in game.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:27 am

Nha the first 4 are competitive but the last two places probably be something like Snorlax for the HP and maybe Nidoking for the brute force, lol. Just sticking to my favs really.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:29 am

Arcanine wrote:
could some one please rate this team for me. i haven't caught them yet so i have no natures etc. for you.

1. Dragonite.
Outrage
Brick break
Iron tail
Ice beam

Dragonite should have ice punch over ice beam as dragonite has better physical attack then special, and iron tail is steel AND inaccurate. D-Dance is a better option.

2. Arcanine
Fire Blast
Solar Beam
Extreme Speed
Sunny Day

Give him fire fang over fire blast, as arcanine is better for physical than special. Also sunny beaming is not that good to set up on an arcanine really. IMO thunder fang and crunch are much better options.

3. Snorlax
Curse
Rest
Rollout
Hyper Beam

No way hyper beam, it's special and it's a 2 turn move. Go for return or body slam. The rest is fine.

4. Electivire
Thunder
Thunder Punch
Screech
Rain Dance

Same with this, it's built for physical attack, and has no durability at all. Thunder dancing is not for electivire, a better moveset would be with ice punch and cross chop/brick break/earthquake. Screech is a strange choice.

5. Poliwrath
Dynamic Punch
Mind Reader
Hydro Pump
Earthquake

Again, physical attacker with special moves. Mind reader+hydro pump will take 2 turns, and poliwrath has a lot of weakness to be exploited in that time. Ice punch is a better option.

6. Mamoswine
Hail
Ice Fang
Earthquake
Takedown

This is okay, but not too keen on hail, as it hurts every other member of your own team.


constructive critism will be much appreciated (as well as complements Very Happy )
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:33 am

very good but as ssomeone has already said give dragonite dragon dance
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:08 am

Dragon Dance is the best move to give any Dragon.

My Flyogn's Moveset so far is:

Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Toxic

Not the best but it works.
I'm also replacing Salamance with Rhyperior as it is just amazing and I forgot all about it.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:34 pm

You guys mind rating my team prolly sux like but here goes:

Dragonite:

Earthquake
Ice beam
Hyper Beam
Outrage


Gengar:

Psychic
Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond
Dark Pulse


Emploeon:

Blizzard
Hydro pump
Surf
Waterfall


Heatran:

Flamethrower
Lava Plume
Earth Power
Iron Head


Roserade:

Energy Ball
Petal Dance
SolarBeam
Cut


Zapdos:

Thunderwave
Aerial Ace
Thunder
Drill Peck
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:08 pm

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You guys mind rating my team prolly sux like but here goes:

Dragonite:

Earthquake
Ice beam
Hyper Beam
Outrage

switch hyper beam with dragon dance


Gengar:

Psychic
Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond
Dark Pulse

I'm not a big fan of destiny bond as it's one of those sacrifice moves but if it can learn it i'd reccomend calm mind or nasty plot to get that sp.atk beefed up


Emploeon:

Blizzard
Hydro pump
Surf
Waterfall

Lose hydro pump, surf can be just as good and i'd replace it with Flash cannon also id change blizzard for ice beam


Heatran:

Flamethrower
Lava Plume
Earth Power
Iron Head



Roserade:

Energy Ball
Petal Dance
SolarBeam
Cut

lose solar beam, put in shadow ball

Zapdos:

Thunderwave
Aerial Ace
Thunder
Drill Peck

make a choice between aerial ace and drill peck, then get rid of one for rain dance since you cant really run the risk of missing with thunder, or just get rid of thunder for thunderbolt


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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:23 pm

...

Torterra (Grass and Ground)-
Leaf Storm
Frenzy Plant
Razor Leaf
Earthquake

Dialga (Steel and Dragon)-
Roar of Time
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Flash Cannon

Pachirisu (Electric)-
Discharge
Super Fang
Thunder
Cut

Machoke (Fighting)-
Cross Chop
Rock Smash
Focus Punch
DynamicPunch

Gardevoir (Psychic)-
Energy Ball
Magical Leaf
Psychic
Future Sight

Crobat (Flying and Poison)-
Fly
Air Slash
Aerial Ace
Mean Look
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:58 pm

Hiroko wrote:
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Torterra (Grass and Ground)-
Leaf Storm
Frenzy Plant
Razor Leaf
Earthquake

ok lose frenzy plant, 2 turn attacks just arent good news online, instead replace with stone edge to deal with the flying mon. Also razor leaf is just too weak and since earthquake will very likely be your main move I'd give it swords dance as a booster

Dialga (Steel and Dragon)-
Roar of Time
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Flash Cannon

Ok lets face it, Dialga has awesome sp.atk so I'd replace dragon claw with dragon pulse. Also lose fire blast and thunder for flamethrower and thunderbolt as those 2 have appaling accuracy tbh.


Pachirisu (Electric)-
Discharge
Super Fang
Thunder
Cut

this isnt much of an attacker but it has decent sp.def. all in all i would reccomend switching out for a slightly more powerful electric type


Machoke (Fighting)-
Cross Chop
Rock Smash
Focus Punch
DynamicPunch

lose Rock smash, its just too weak and will not make full use of machokes awesome attack Earthquake will fit in well. also focus punch isnt too good and i'd switch that for bulk up. Dynamic punch should really go that accuracy is to much of a risk for competitive play then add poison jab, which could help. then finally get someone to trade to make it evolve.


Gardevoir (Psychic)-
Energy Ball
Magical Leaf
Psychic
Future Sight

Ok calm mind would come in handy so id replace future sight with it possibly switch magical leaf with light screen since energy ball is more powerful and with its added effect will allow for major damage if it does lower sp.def

Crobat (Flying and Poison)-
Fly
Air Slash
Aerial Ace
Mean Look

switch out air slash for X scissor, which should help dispose of psychics, get rid of fly and replace it with steel wing to help deal with ice also i would reccomend getting rid of mean look and replacing it with roost

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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:11 pm

Ok a few of my back ups are ready so i'd like to get em rated, I'd like advice on items for these as well, Thanks.

Swampert @ ??????????
Brave
EV's: 252 attack, 252 sp.def

Avalanche
Earthquake
Waterfall
Brick Break

Gallade @ ????????
Lonely
EV's: 252 attack, 252 sp.def

Leaf blade
psycho cut
Swords dance
Close combat

Togekiss @ ?????????
Modest
EV's: 252 sp.atk, 252 sp.def

Aura sphere
Flamethrower
Metronome
Water pulse

Tyranitar @ ??????
adamnat
EV's 252 attack, 128 defence, 128 sp.def

ice fang / avalanche
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Dragon claw / outrage


can i get some help with this?

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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:49 pm

KC14 wrote:
Ok a few of my back ups are ready so i'd like to get em rated, I'd like advice on items for these as well, Thanks.

Swampert @ Life Orb/Leftovers

Brave
EV's: 252 attack, 252 sp.def

Avalanche
Earthquake
Waterfall
Brick Break


Not an expert on Swamperts, but this looks pretty good, maybe make the Nature/EVs look a little more like this

Adamant (if you're trying to keep speed down for Avalanche, don't worry, it always hits second, anyway Wink)
200 Attack, 176 Defence, 132 Sp. Defence as Swampert's only weakness is Grass, and the main Grass attack to look out for is Leaf Blade, which is a physical attack.

Gallade @ Muscle Band?
Lonely
EV's: 252 attack, 252 sp.def


Leaf blade
psycho cut
Swords dance
/Night Slash
Close combat

If you're going to be using a Ninjask as a Baton Passer, you may want to consider switching Swords Dance for Night Slash for a Super Effective move against Ghosts - your main weakness here. Also, switch the Nature/EVs to:

Adamant
252 Attack, 252 Speed.

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Modest
EV's: 252 sp.atk, 252 sp.def

Aura sphere
Flamethrower
Metronome
Water pulse


Oo, crikey no. Togekiss will never serve as a Special sweeper, its pure wall. For the Nature and EV spread change it to something like this:

180 Sp. Defence, 140 Defence, 200 HP

And give it this moveset:

Thunder Wave
Roost
Air Slash
Aura Sphere

Also, make sure it has the ability: Serene Grace, otherwise the ParaFlinchHax strategy wont work.

Tyranitar @ Life Orb/Leftovers
adamant
EV's 252 attack, 128 defence, 128 sp.def


Ice Fang
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
/Dragon Claw
Crunch

I Suggest that moveset, again, as you will be using Ninjask, you may not need Dragon Dance.

I also suggest this EV Spread:

180 Attack, 120 Speed, 120 Sp. Defence, 88 Defence as TTar's attack is already monsterous, and you need the speed to be able to outspeed Garchomp after a DDance or BP from Ninjask Wink

can i get some help with this?

Hope this helped! ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:30 am

could some one help me with this, i've edited my team and found i have no special sweepers, and my mixed sweeper isn't built for sp attack.

Dragonite - Dragonscale
Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP
Outrage
Dragon Dance
Brick Break
Iron Tail
Physical Sweeper

Arcanine - charcoal
Naughty EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP
FlareBlitz
SunnyDay
Solar Beam
Extreme Speed
Physical Sweeper

Blissey - Leftovers
Bold EV's: 252 Defence, 252 Sp. Defence, 6hp
Softboiled
Toxic
Grassknot
Psychic
Tank

Electivire - Magnet
Rash EV's: 128 Attack, 128 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
Thunder
Thunder Punch
Discharge
Rain Dance
Mixed Sweeper

Poliwrath - Mystic Water
Rash EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP
Surf
Dynamic Punch
Earthquake
Body Slam
Physical Sweeper

Mamoswine
Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
IceFang
Avalanche
Earthquake
Takedown
Physical Sweeper

Dragonite, Arcanine and Blissey are NOT coming off my team, although i would be willing to change there move set apart from Dragonites.

I would like to keep Electivire and Mamoswine, but i would get rid of them if i had to. Poliwrath can come off no problem.

so can some help me and recommend new movesets, pokemon and EV's, please.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:17 pm

Arcanine wrote:
could some one help me with this, i've edited my team and found i have no special sweepers, and my mixed sweeper isn't built for sp attack.

Dragonite - Dragonscale
Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP
Outrage
Dragon Dance
Brick Break
Iron Tail
Physical Sweeper


Give him a lum berry. Iron tail is a nono. A punch is a better option. Also, I'd suggest EQ over brick break, but it's whether you need to break light screens.


Arcanine - charcoal NUUUU MUSCLE BAND. Never use single-type items
Naughty you want Jolly EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP
FlareBlitz
SunnyDay
Solar Beam
Extreme Speed
Physical Sweeper

Did you listen? ARCANINE. DOES. NOT. SUNNYBEAM!!! physical sweeper with sunny beam. Fire's cant take hits. You dont want a 2 turn non STAB move on an arcanine _ Go for thunderfang and crunch >_>


Blissey - Leftovers
Bold EV's: 252 Defence, 252 Sp. Defence, 6hp
Softboiled
Toxic
Grassknot
Psychic
Tank


Thats not a tank, thats a tank with sweeper moves and phailing EVs >_> You want to go for: 252 defence, 148 HP, the rest in sp. atk or speed. For the moves, go for seismic toss somewhere.

Electivire - Magnet ARGH, No, you want a life orb/expert belt
Rash EV's: 128 Attack, 128 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
Thunder
Thunder Punch
Discharge
Rain Dance
Mixed Sweeper

You wont want 'Vire as a mixed sweeper, it doesnt work. Again, conflicting weather, and a weed using a 2 turn set up which is pwnt to hell by a ground, it can't do squat with 3 freaking thunder moves!!!!! _ read my last post


Poliwrath - Mystic Water
Rash PHYSICAL sweeper, with a +SPATK nature!?!?!?! EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP
Surf
Dynamic Punch
Earthquake
Body Slam
Physical Sweeper

A physical sweeper.......with SURF???!!?? Go for waterfall, and dynamic punch should be replaced IMO.

Mamoswine
Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
IceFang
Avalanche
Earthquake
Takedown
Physical Sweeper

2 ice moves.....and neither is ice shard. Use ice shard over avalanche. Take down is stupid, recoil and less power than return, and never super effective. IMO replace it with something else, but if you want normal go for return.

Dragonite, Arcanine and Blissey are NOT coming off my team, although i would be willing to change there move set apart from Dragonites.

I would like to keep Electivire and Mamoswine, but i would get rid of them if i had to. Poliwrath can come off no problem.

so can some help me and recommend new movesets, pokemon and EV's, please.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:03 am

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Arcanine wrote:
could some one help me with this, i've edited my team and found i have no special sweepers, and my mixed sweeper isn't built for sp attack.

Dragonite - Dragonscale
Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP
Outrage
Dragon Dance
Brick Break
Iron Tail
Physical Sweeper


Give him a lum berry. Iron tail is a nono. A punch is a better option. Also, I'd suggest EQ over brick break, but it's whether you need to break light screens.


Arcanine - charcoal NUUUU MUSCLE BAND. Never use single-type items
Naughty you want Jolly EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP
FlareBlitz
SunnyDay
Solar Beam
Extreme Speed
Physical Sweeper

Did you listen? ARCANINE. DOES. NOT. SUNNYBEAM!!! physical sweeper with sunny beam. Fire's cant take hits. You dont want a 2 turn non STAB move on an arcanine _ Go for thunderfang and crunch >_>


Blissey - Leftovers
Bold EV's: 252 Defence, 252 Sp. Defence, 6hp
Softboiled
Toxic
Grassknot
Psychic
Tank


Thats not a tank, thats a tank with sweeper moves and phailing EVs >_> You want to go for: 252 defence, 148 HP, the rest in sp. atk or speed. For the moves, go for seismic toss somewhere.

Electivire - Magnet ARGH, No, you want a life orb/expert belt
Rash EV's: 128 Attack, 128 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
Thunder
Thunder Punch
Discharge
Rain Dance
Mixed Sweeper

You wont want 'Vire as a mixed sweeper, it doesnt work. Again, conflicting weather, and a weed using a 2 turn set up which is pwnt to hell by a ground, it can't do squat with 3 freaking thunder moves!!!!! _ read my last post


Poliwrath - Mystic Water
Rash PHYSICAL sweeper, with a +SPATK nature!?!?!?! EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6HP
Surf
Dynamic Punch
Earthquake
Body Slam
Physical Sweeper

A physical sweeper.......with SURF???!!?? Go for waterfall, and dynamic punch should be replaced IMO.

Mamoswine
Adamant EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
IceFang
Avalanche
Earthquake
Takedown
Physical Sweeper

2 ice moves.....and neither is ice shard. Use ice shard over avalanche. Take down is stupid, recoil and less power than return, and never super effective. IMO replace it with something else, but if you want normal go for return.

Dragonite, Arcanine and Blissey are NOT coming off my team, although i would be willing to change there move set apart from Dragonites.

I would like to keep Electivire and Mamoswine, but i would get rid of them if i had to. Poliwrath can come off no problem.

so can some help me and recommend new movesets, pokemon and EV's, please.

you really didn't help me that much, i asked to recommend other pokemon for my team as, if you read my post, i have no special sweepers.

EDIT: No need anymore, i have a new team, i'll post later when i have movestes etc.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:45 am

Arcanine wrote:

so can some help me and recommend new movesets, pokemon and EV's, please.


I did 2/3 of what you asked actually arcanine.
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:06 pm

like i found out, choose your team members yourself, otherwise it wont be your team, it'll be bananas. Work with pokemon you know, it helps a lot.

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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:13 pm

also, play with your favourites, not what you think works. The amount of noobs going

"el oh el i gotz scarfed garchomp and salamence and gyarados, zomg you killed mah pogeymanz with yours"

because i have electric and ice moves and the ability to kill dragons and gyaradoses is unbelievable. People die to my BLs and my UUs all the time, its predictability, each garchomp will have outrage, EQ and probably fire fang. Each mence will have EQ and D-Claw, and each gyarados will have waterfall and EQ.


be original. and consider my advice cos your movesets are kinda bad xD
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:14 pm

Banana wrote:
also, play with your favourites, not what you think works. The amount of noobs going

"el oh el i gotz scarfed garchomp and salamence and gyarados, zomg you killed mah pogeymanz with yours"

because i have electric and ice moves and the ability to kill dragons and gyaradoses is unbelievable. People die to my BLs and my UUs all the time, its predictability, each garchomp will have outrage, EQ and probably fire fang. Each mence will have EQ and D-Claw, and each gyarados will have waterfall and EQ.


be original. and consider my advice cos your movesets are kinda bad xD

i've gotten rid of electivire, poliwrath and mamoswine, and replaced them with Primeape, Starmie and Skarmary, i've listened to you and given Dragonite EQ and thunderpunch over iron tail and brick break, and gave him DD ovre ice beam, Changed Blissey's move set to a special wall moveset, and i really went against what you said and completely changed arcanine into a Special Sweeper (I know he has beter attack than Special attack, but it is so little it doesn't make much difference, and i read a team building guide and it said it could be used as both so. I was gonna take your advice but i needed a special sweeper and that was the easiest option (and i got my favourite move in the game on my favourite pokemon in the game, score)).
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PostSubject: Re: rate my team   Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:42 pm

Thats fine arcy, it'll be a surprise to people anyway, as everyone'll expect a physical arcanine. Just as long as you didn't make it a sunnybeamer >_>

but good, personalisation [within the realms of what works and what doesn't] is the key to success Very Happy
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